Saç Ekimi Sonuçları
Saç Ekimi Sonuçları => Saç ekimi sonuçları => Konuyu başlatan: Portugal25 - 30 Aralık 2019, 20:08:08
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Hello Everyone,
Sorry but I will have to write in English.
In 2008 when I was 25 years old, I had my first hair transplant with Dr. Rahal in which I had 3425 grafts implated to rebuid the front hairline by FUT but since then I haven`t taken any finasteride (due to side effects) so I lost all the hair in my midscalp and crown.
I knew my donor area was limited to around 2000 grafts so I realized that in order to achieve a decent level of density I would have to compensate with beard grafts.
I started looking for an affordable Doctor that was performing the entire surgery himself and achieving great results with high amounts of beard grafts, so that ruled out Dr. Rahal.
After months of research I found out that there was only one Doctor in the world that matched my requirements and was charging less than 2,5€ per beard graft, Dr. Kaan Pekiner.
Dr. Kaan does all manual FUE with stick & place technique which is more time consuming than motorized FUE but he says it allows him to have a better feel while extracting and better control of the angle of each graft.
So, I spoke with his patient advisor, Alex by whatsapp and booked my 3 day surgery from the 26 to the 28th of December (yes they work on weekends).
Now how lucky was I to have found out that just last week Dr. Kaan Pekiner moved his practice to a brand new luxury clinic and I would be one of the first patients to have a surgery here.
I recorded a walkthrough video to show you guys the new clinic and had Alex (Patient Advisor) upload it so my name doesn`t show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhAnFb5XfNY
Because Dr. Kaan Pekiner only does surgery on 1 patient per day I had a private clinic just for myself that also included my own cook to provide meals during the day 😊
My first day started at 08.30h with a photoshoot followed by mapping out the implating area and then a discussion about the surgery with Dr. Kaan.
Dr. Kaan calculated I had a area of 140cm2 of mildscalp and crown to fill in but he would only manage to extract around 2000 grafts from the head and was unsure about the number of beard grafts he would be able to extract (maybe 1000-1500) so he gave me a tuff choice:
1. Achieve a nice density of around 30-40cm2 by implanting only to the mildscalp and upper crown leaving my lower crown empty for the rest of my life.
2. Implanting the whole 140cm2 open area and risking getting less than 20cm2 density if the beard donor fails to provide a high number of grafts.
I went with option 2 and I am so happy I did so 😊
Here is my surgery timetable
· 08.30h Graft Extraction
· 10.30h 15m Break
· 10.45h Graft Implatation
· 12.45h 1 hour Lunch
· 13.45h Graft Extraction
· 15.30h 15m Break
· 15.45h Graft Implatation
· 17.45h: End of Day
As predicted by Dr. Kaan he did only managed to extract 2000 head grafts because he only wanted to use thick graft and I could actually feel him searching my head for the best grafts to extract. “thin grafts would make no point in the crown” he said. I could also feel him arranging the angle of each graft in my crown while he was rebuilding my crown vertex, that attention to detail was like nothing I have ever seen and I thanked him repeatedly for it!
On day 2 Dr. Kaan also took a sample of 109 grafts from my beard at the end of the day to test my beard donor area and he realized that my beard was actually much better than he expected.
On the 3rd day the whole team spent 10 hours around my beard to extract a whopping 1888 beard grafts thus provinding me with almost 30cm2 density all around. I couldn`t believe it when Dr. Kaan told me the graft count, we were both so happy that I was getting a better than expected density (even though it’s not a lot and I am hoping I will be happy with the results). Also, I had 80 grafts (singles and doubles) implanted into to my right temple because after shaving it was easy to see I had a small gap in the front.
Today I met with Dr. Kaan to remove my bandages (yes he came to see me in person on a Sunday morning, amazing!). It`s also really great he speaks fluent English because if he didn`t it would have been a deal breaker for me.
So my surgery finished yesterday and so far I have had absolutely no swelling whatsoever. Dr. Kaan used a 0.9mm punch for my scalp donor area and a 0.6mm punch for my beard donor area.
A shout out to Dr. Kaan`s amazing team: Fatmanur, Irem, Volkan and Saide, they were by my side the whole day assisting Dr. Kaan and making sure everything went smoothly.
After having had FUT with Dr. Rahal in 2008 and now FUE + BHT with Dr. Kaan Pekiner, in my humble opinion Dr. Kaan is truly one of the best in the world as I found no other Doctor at his price point offering his total devotion to just one patient per day in order to reach the best possible outcome using both the donor area from the scalp and beard.
I don`t understand how to upload all the pictures on this forum but you can check them on the English forum below:
https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55853-dr-kaan-pekiner-futbht-3895-2007-fue-1888-bht-28122019/
Let me know what you think.
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tbh i want to share ur photos here to show what happens if you dont use finasteride after hair transplant. I saw your case both on bellicapelli and hrn. And its not good to use other forums links here, you need to add pictures.This link will help for adding pictures https://www.sacekimisonuclari.com/index.php?topic=234.0
ps: You can add max 4 pics per post
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Hello picture pls
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Hello everyone,
I’m 16 days post-op and returned to work 11 days after my surgery.
Everyone was commenting on my new look (still have many scabs on the midscalp) so I openly spoke about my hair transplant with my colleagues and they praised me for having the courage to travel 0alone to Turkey to get this done.
Below are pictures taken today with hair wet and dry taken 11 days after my surgery.
I also attaching a picture of my beard donor area that was taken just 5 days after surgery, on the day I first shaved after my surgery.
5 Days Beard
https://content.invisioncic.com/o278943/monthly_2020_01/8978A333-6ACF-4C65-A901-DC98BA0F2F26.jpeg.779221fe818df20f62f7a564281e74dc.jpeg
11 Days
https://content.invisioncic.com/o278943/monthly_2020_01/427D6499-B010-4762-9B92-ADF26A10C4BA.jpeg.86f8ebc12d4bf2bc2bf34950578690d8.jpeg
Would really appreciate your comments.
Thank you.
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Hallo
Hayırlı olsun kardeş
Valla ingilizce yok ama arapça istersen dibine vuralım
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Hi Dino,
Sorry but Google Translator is having a hard time translating your post.
It`s quite difficult writing in this forum because I am Portuguese and therefore, English is not my first language (even thought I can easily write in English because everyone in Portugal speaks English).
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Bu ingilizce deli edicek beni
Ya yazildigin gibi okun yada okundugun gibi yazıl
Neyse portu
Arasıra resimlerini at
Eger güzelse gülücük simgesi göndereceğim
Kötüyse yüzümü ekşilteceğim
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Bu ingilizce deli edicek beni
Ya yazildigin gibi okun yada okundugun gibi yazıl
Neyse portu
Arasıra resimlerini at
Eger güzelse gülücük simgesi göndereceğim
Kötüyse yüzümü ekşilteceğim
Başkan bu yazdıklarının hiç bir dilde karşılığı yok :)
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Başkan bu yazdıklarının hiç bir dilde karşılığı yok :)
Yok çünkü
Adam çevirme yapsa
Kelimeler doğru yazılmadığı için anlamsız kalacak:)
Sen bekle meksicim
Aklını alırım bu adamın
Memleketimde cirit atmanın bedeli ağır olur
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Yok çünkü
Adam çevirme yapsa
Kelimeler doğru yazılmadığı için anlamsız kalacak:)
Sen bekle meksicim
Aklını alırım bu adamın
Memleketimde cirit atmanın bedeli ağır olur
adam ingiliz değil biladerim sal adamı, adam portekiz ispanyol falan, oralarda eskiden muminler vardı belki kökleriniz aynıdır.
Hintell belki sen adamın fotolarını eklersin foruma yönetici olarak, benden rica etmişti ama olmaz dedim :D.
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adam ingiliz değil biladerim sal adamı, adam portekiz ispanyol falan, oralarda eskiden muminler vardı belki kökleriniz aynıdır.
Hintell belki sen adamın fotolarını eklersin foruma yönetici olarak, benden rica etmişti ama olmaz dedim :D.
Kelime-i şehadet getirirse dediğine inanırım.
Sende iyi değilmissin demekki
Mümin kardeşinin istegini neden boş çevirdin
Belliki yol iz bilmez.
Hintell'in işi başından aşkın
Hadi bir el at şu adama ne olur :)
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Bana biraz reklam koktu ne yalan söyleyeyim
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Bu ingilizce deli edicek beni
Ya yazildigin gibi okun yada okundugun gibi yazıl
Neyse portu
Arasıra resimlerini at
Eger güzelse gülücük simgesi göndereceğim
Kötüyse yüzümü ekşilteceğim
harikasın ya gene kopartmışsın abi.
;D
Bana biraz reklam koktu ne yalan söyleyeyim
aynen .üstteki yazıyı yazabilen portekizli hayda hayda buraya da resimleride ekleyebilirdi ,bahanesi çok saçma .
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Bana biraz reklam koktu ne yalan söyleyeyim
Reklam mi bilmem ama reklam olsa hasta konusunda daha seçici olurdu diye düşünüyorum.)
Bu kafaya reklam olacağını sanmıyorum.
Dr. Pekinerin hastaları hep yurtdışı yeltenir mi sanmam
Meraklısına
Bellicapelli-İtalyan hastaları
Alopezie.de-Alman hastaları
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yok reklam değil, önceki dr rahaldeki sonucunu da biliyorum adamın, hatta geçen yaz forumda doktor ararken arkadaş ekim yaptıktan sonra kendi saçlarının döküldüğünden bahsetti, https://www.sacekimisonuclari.com/index.php?topic=9110.msg197115#msg197115
bende bu konuyu açtım ilaç kullanmazsanız ekimden sonra ne olur diye.
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yok reklam değil, önceki dr rahaldeki sonucunu da biliyorum adamın, hatta geçen yaz forumda doktor ararken arkadaş ekim yaptıktan sonra kendi saçlarının döküldüğünden bahsetti, https://www.sacekimisonuclari.com/index.php?topic=9110.msg197115#msg197115
bende bu konuyu açtım ilaç kullanmazsanız ekimden sonra ne olur diye.
The two wesbsites above: Bellicapelli and Hair Restoration Network - are showing my pictures that were taken when I was 25 years old and had my hair transplant with Dr. Rahal.
I am now 37 years old and since 2013 I have been losing the hair in my crown because I did not use finasteride.
Dr. Rahal told me I have very little donor area left so I chose Dr. Pekiner because I wanted a doctor that had a lot experience doing beard mega sessions to compensate for my lack of scalp donor area.
I do not understand why you guys are saying that I am advertising for Dr. Kaan when I simply wrote a report of my surgery with Dr. Kaan. I do not work for Dr. Kaan and I also do not work for Dr. Rahal. I do think they are both great doctors.
I could only write on the other foruns were people speak English. However, I was very well treated in Turkey and therefore, I decided to also post in this Turkish forum (despite nobody here can write in English)
P.S: I wish more people would write detailed reports and videos like I have done here on this website and many times on Tripadvisor (hotels and restaurants)
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The two wesbsites above: Bellicapelli and Hair Restoration Network - are showing my pictures that were taken when I was 25 years old and had my hair transplant with Dr. Rahal.
I am now 37 years old and since 2013 I have been losing the hair in my crown because I did not use finasteride.
Dr. Rahal told me I have very little donor area left so I chose Dr. Pekiner because I wanted a doctor that had a lot experience doing beard mega sessions to compensate for my lack of scalp donor area.
I do not understand why you guys are saying that I am advertising for Dr. Kaan when I simply wrote a report of my surgery with Dr. Kaan. I do not work for Dr. Kaan and I also do not work for Dr. Rahal. I do think that Dr. Kaan and Dr. Rahal are very good doctors.
I could only write on the other foruns were people speak English. However, I was very well treated in Turkey and therefore, I decided to also post in this Turkish forum (despite nobody here can write in English)
P.S: I wish more people would write detailed reports and videos like I have done here on this website and many times on Tripadvisor (hotels and restaurants)
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Thanks for sharing.I will follow your period please keep sharing our forum.
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Thanks for sharing.I will follow your period please keep sharing our forum.
Ne diyor ?
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Well; it is too early to make a statement about your procedure; all you need to do is to take care of yourself; take the supplements you have been advised and be patient.
Also; please keep on sharing your results here.
good luck;
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Thank you Atilim and Lincoln for your kind replies.
I will keep posting to my Turkish friends :)
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Ne diyor ?
Dino use google translator ;)
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Dino use google translator ;)
good luck
You are on a site with Turkish. it would be more useful if you translate it in Turkish
you've had a lot of hair
Get well soon
I hope you find what you hope this October
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hi portugal.
i hope so your process will be great. thank you for your share.
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good luck
You are on a site with Turkish. it would be more useful if you translate it in Turkish
you've had a lot of hair
Get well soon
I hope you find what you hope this October
Google translate in "ekim" i "Ekim" olarak çevirmesi :))
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good luck
You are on a site with Turkish. it would be more useful if you translate it in Turkish
you've had a lot of hair
Get well soon
I hope you find what you hope this October
Come on Dino, think of this chat with me as a great opportunity to develop your pretty good English skills ;)
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Google translate in "ekim" i "Ekim" olarak çevirmesi :))
Google translator is very bad.
The sentence you wrote translates into "Sowing" like to plant some seeds on the ground "October" which is a month of the year and "Dialing" like to dial a number on a telephone.
I have no idea what you mean :P
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Google translate in "ekim" i "Ekim" olarak çevirmesi :))
Değerli bir kelime :) saygıdan tabi büyük olacak 😃
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Come on Dino, think of this chat with me as a great opportunity to develop your pretty good English skills ;)
Thank you for your nice thoughts. but I can't be a father to me in English.
I would love to learn, but because the spelling and reading is different, the brain does not take.
I always had zero in school
Even if I take one here, it won't. my lion now listen to me
add pictures to the forum
You have ten minutes. here is what I say :)
tell me
We are learning English at school and why is there no Turkish at your school?
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Dino here in Portugal besides Portuguese we study English, French and Spanish.
I can read and write fluently in these 4 Languages.
Turkish is still not a famous language in Portugal but maybe this will change in the future because Turkish Airlines now has direct flights from Lisbon to Istambul every day
I will keep posting pictures and hope Dr. Kaan did a good job.
Dr. Kaan is starting to become very famous in the Italian and English forums.
Do Turkish people consider Dr. Kaan Pekiner one of the best hair transplant Doctors in Turkey?
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Dino here in Portugal besides Portuguese we study English, French and Spanish.
I can read and write fluently in these 4 Languages.
Turkish is still not a famous language in Portugal but maybe this will change in the future because Turkish Airlines now has direct flights from Lisbon to Istambul every day
I will keep posting pictures and hope Dr. Kaan did a good job.
Dr. Kaan is starting to become very famous in the Italian and English forums.
Do Turkish people consider Dr. Kaan Pekiner one of the best hair transplant Doctors in Turkey?
its not so popular in turkey yet, but he had like 3-4 patients here, Due to our economic problems not everyone can handle the doctors who work with euro.
And at the top right of site, you can use google translate and add pictures to forum,(4 Per post). Its better to save photos here because sometimes other sites(like bellicapelli now) have issues and you can lose your old photos.
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Hey Portugal,
I have been following your HT topic in Hair Restoration Network forums as well. Good luck with growing your newly relocated hair and beard grafts :)
Pekiner worked and got trained by Keser for about a year and worked at HLC for about four years if I am not mistaken. He is an underrated rising star but does not get enough credit in Turkish forums as much as he does in international ones because of not having many HTs topics opened in Turkish forums. So thank you for opening one here. Please keep us updated at least the first 12 months of your HT.
As for me, I love Pekiner's work and would suggest people going to him if they can not afford Keser and/or they need more than 2500 grafts and/or they need beard support. Pekiner is one of the very few doctors who extracts and implants himself, and who uses stick and place technique. I have been checking his work on international forums and can recommend him to anyone who wants doctor's involvement through out the HT, dense packing and reasonable price.
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Dr. Kaan gave me a huge discount and charged me 2€ per graft regardless if it was beard or scalp grafts.
I searched all over the world and could not find a Doctor that does the whole surgery charging less per graft.
The cheapest Doctors in Europe (that do the whole surgery) charge 2.5€ per graft.
In the USA a Doctor that does the whole surgery charges 8 dollars per graft (crazy expensive).
I do not like to have surgeries with Doctors that allow technicians to do the surgery without their presence. So having a Doctor that performs the whole surgery is very important to me.
Which doctor do the Turkish people consider the best in Turkey?
Koray- Asmed - He uses technicians and recently there has been several patients complain about their results on the English forum.
HLC Ankara? (expensive! Charged me 2.7€ per graft).
Keser? (Expensive! He charges 3.5€ per graft)
Is there any other really good Turkish Doctors that only Turkish people know about?
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The others to consider could be Kul, Doganay and Demirsoy. They are not as consistent as the ones you mentioned but are known as good doctors by the community.
The rest are more budget friendly with more controversial results.
Quick question: Does Pekiner use manual punch or motorized punch?
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Kaan Pekiner is using manual punch.
In my case he used 0.6mm punch for the beard and 0.9mm for the scalp.
I have recommend Demirsoy to a friend on a tight budget because he costs 1.25€ per graft but he does not perform the whole surgery, he uses technicians.
I never read anything about Kul but I just researched him on the English forum and his results from 2013 to 2015 are not good but maybe now he is better.
Dogany has a few bad results in the English forum and is not recommend by them anymore.
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Kaya,
Just saw your amazing results with Keser on HRN.
I reccomended Keser to a American because of your amazing result! There are other great results from Keser but your result is outright perfect!
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Kaya,
Just saw your amazing results with Keser on HRN.
I reccomended Keser to a American because of your amazing result! There are other great results from Keser but your result is outright perfect!
Thanks man, much appreciated.
Keser is amazingly consistent with super high yield and very very low failure rate. He does everything himself (numbing, extracting, implanting etc). He does max 600 grafts and one patient a day. He has his own punch (designed by himself) which cuts through with one move and increases the survival chance of the grafts. And this kind of boutique treatment comes with the price which makes him the most expensive HT doctor in Turkey (that is still cheap compared to US, Canada and some part of Europe). I wholeheartedly believe he deserves it and that's why I got 2 HT with him. My other alternatives were Dr. Konior ($8 fue) with 1 year wait time and Dr. Couto ($6 fue) with 4-5 year wait time.
Keser's only shortcoming is the lack of public relations and advertisement but when I asked him about the same, he told me that he does not want to be exposed much and he likes to stay low key. He mentioned that he always has enough of patients in the pipeline and expanding without compromising the quality is impossible. He also added that forums are asking ridiculous amounts of money to keep him as a suggested surgeon which I don't think he needs. His results speak for himself.
Anyways, you also selected the right doctor to have HT with. If I were in your shoes, I would do the same especially if I need beard grafts. Good luck with growing them and please reach out to me if you have any concerns or questions on your post-op adventure :)
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Good job bro welcome to forum kongırıleyşıns 🤣
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Hey Portugal25,
Welcome to the forum. I hope you enjoy the great hospitality here. I live in Denmark and I've just got my hair transplant in Turkey. It was an amazing experience after all. I think Turkey has greatest price/performance ratio in the region by far.
I went to Lisbon only once and it was amazing. We ended up fado music bar in the night and I still remember those moments. I remember that I asked why do you have this sadness ? What happened ?. They told me about the sailors once in a while sailed overseas and never came back. We have something similar in Turkish culture. It is mostly about our soldiers. They go to wars or to fight somewhere else in our history and they don't come back. So, we have also sad songs about them. Weird :)
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Yas30 on the other foruns whenever I talk about Turkey someone always criticizes me because they say that Turkey is full of low cost clinics where under paid technicians with very little knowledge are performing surgeries.
I am trying to explain to people on the English forum that even though Turkey does have a lot of low cost clinics they also have some of the best doctors in the world like Keser, Pekiner and HLC but its difficult for people to fully trust Turkey due to many terrible results from low cost clinics.
Just 10 million people in Portugal and Lisbon is now a very trendy European capital city because of Cristiano Ronaldo. Fado music is mostly popular with tourists because Portuguese prefer Ed Sheeran and Madonna (she has been living in Lisbon for over 1 year)
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Portugal; can you check Esma Serkan Tetik on Forum?
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Portugal; can you check Esma Serkan Tetik on Forum?
Licoln I just saw dozens of patients results from Esma Serkan Tetik and all the results are good! Also read that you have booked your surgery with them, congratulations.
They use DHI to implant the grafts which is the same technique that the Best Fue Doctors in the world are now using (Juan Couto, Jose Lorenzo, Rafael De Freitas).
I do have some questions and I would be very grateful to you if you could answer these questions:
Are Esma and Serkan actual Doctors or technicians?
Did Esma and Serkan used to work with Dr. Hakan Doganay (Doganay has a terrible reputation on the English forum and for good reason)?
Do they have a limit of 2000 grafts per day?
Are Serkan or Esma doing the whole surgery or do they have technicians doing part of the surgery?
Do they have only 1 patient per day like Dr. Kaan Pekiner?
I read they are charging 8000 TRL for 3650 grafts including the Hotel (this is crazy cheap) is this price correct?
It seems like Esma and Serkan Tetik are a well kept secret because they are only doing surgery on Turkish people and have zero international patients.
I still think Dr. Kaan Pekiner is the best in Turkey because his results have more detail, his hairlines are almost perfect and he has a lot of experience doing beard mega sessions :)